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  • Rick R.I.P.
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2012
    • 10900

    #1

    Unknown Coaster

    Seen here under tow and entering Great Yarmouth,needs identification,-name blocked out by stern tug.


    Rick Cox collection,unknown photographer.

    Photo recovered from the collection of Kent aka member Roedspaetten
  • Ron Halliday
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2012
    • 291

    #2
    Originally posted by Rick
    Seen here under tow and entering Great Yarmouth,needs identification,-name blocked out by stern tug.


    Rick Cox collection,unknown photographer.

    Dutch or German Built from the looks of it Rick. Derricks with a pair of King Posts in the middle. Probably 2 hatches. Was thinking possibly one of those China clay ships beginning "Gal----", rgrds

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    • coasterspotter
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2012
      • 2177

      #3
      Hi Rick

      Looking at the flag on the stern, it looks like it may be that of Angola. Could she be one of the Secil ships?

      Cheers

      Paul

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      • Rick R.I.P.
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2012
        • 10900

        #4
        Originally posted by Ron Halliday
        Dutch or German Built from the looks of it Rick. Derricks with a pair of King Posts in the middle. Probably 2 hatches. Was thinking possibly one of those China clay ships beginning "Gal----", rgrds
        Hi Ron,
        Certainly not U.K. built,but could be Dutch or German as you say.

        I know the GAL boats Galtide etc-Greek flag some of them,used to get in Par/Fowey.Do you not think she's a bit too smart for one of them ?

        Cheers,Rick

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        • Ron Halliday
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2012
          • 291

          #5
          Originally posted by Rick
          Hi Ron,
          Certainly not U.K. built,but could be Dutch or German as you say.

          I know the GAL boats Galtide etc-Greek flag some of them,used to get in Par/Fowey.Do you not think she's a bit too smart for one of them ?

          Cheers,Rick
          Cannot remember but seem to think they had a couple of bigger ships towards the End. Other bit is most of them were geared ships. Any idea as to what year the picture was taken?
          Last edited by Ron Halliday; 31-10-13, 10:46 PM.

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          • Rick R.I.P.
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2012
            • 10900

            #6
            Originally posted by Ron Halliday
            Cannot remember but seem to think they had a couple of bigger ships towards the End. Other bit is most of them were geared ships. Any idea as to what year the picture was taken?
            No idea when the photo was taken Ron.I bought it on Ebay-in an album,mainly full of rig boats,some years ago,with no indication of when it was taken.

            Cheers,Rick.

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            • Dierk Bauer
              Administrator
              • Oct 2012
              • 3608

              #7
              Hi Paul, Rick and Ron, I checked all Secil vessels on Shipspotting.com , funnel mark is similar, but couldn`t see the colour too clearly
              But the gear was a bit different, but of course am not the expert....
              Best wishes, stay safe and take care
              Dierk

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              • Rick R.I.P.
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2012
                • 10900

                #8
                Originally posted by coasterspotter
                Hi Rick

                Looking at the flag on the stern, it looks like it may be that of Angola. Could she be one of the Secil ships?

                Cheers

                Paul
                Thanks Paul-you may be onto something there,see Dierks posting today.

                Cheers,Rick.

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                • Ron Halliday
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 291

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Dierk Bauer
                  Hi Paul, Rick and Ron, I checked all Secil vessels on Shipspotting.com , funnel mark is similar, but couldn`t see the colour too clearly
                  But the gear was a bit different, but of course am not the expert....

                  Having a closer look at the construction, reckon for sure German Built, and not sure but something similiar to a ship called Havlyn, only thoughts. Maybe peter with his knowledge may come up with something. If you got the tug's name maybe you can find out when the salvage/tow took place?

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                  • Dierk Bauer
                    Administrator
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 3608

                    #10
                    If this would have been at Sharpness, am sure that Mike even could name the ship`s dog
                    Best wishes, stay safe and take care
                    Dierk

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                    • Unicon, Sg- Gareth R.I.P.
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 503

                      #11
                      Morning all - is that an M on the end of the name ? looking through the starboard window of tugs bridge,not much help but agree with Ron reckon she German built, 70's early 80's and abt 3-3500dwt ? Cheers Gareth

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                      • Rick R.I.P.
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 10900

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Ron Halliday
                        Having a closer look at the construction, reckon for sure German Built, and not sure but something similiar to a ship called Havlyn, only thoughts. Maybe peter with his knowledge may come up with something. If you got the tug's name maybe you can find out when the salvage/tow took place?
                        Bow tug = BRITOIL 1.

                        Stern tug = HECTOR READ

                        Cheers, Rick

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                        • sharpnessship
                          Member
                          • Oct 2012
                          • 71

                          #13
                          Thanks Dierk,

                          This one puzzles me, especially the gear in the centre, open/closed shelterdecker, similar colours to Intersee ??

                          Mike

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                          • Unicon, Sg- Gareth R.I.P.
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 503

                            #14
                            Hi Mike and all - she's not Intersee (our parent Co) but she looks like a ship that Oost Atlantic, Genchart or Gruno (all Dutch) would operate in the past? think she a singledecker but could well be closed shelterdecker as you say.Wonder if she going in to load with compulsory tugs assistance or as Ron says salvage but looks like her prop is turning or is that all the stern tug prop wash ? Cheers Gareth

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                            • Ron Halliday
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 291

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Uniconnection Shipping
                              Hi Mike and all - she's not Intersee (our parent Co) but she looks like a ship that Oost Atlantic, Genchart or Gruno (all Dutch) would operate in the past? think she a singledecker but could well be closed shelterdecker as you say.Wonder if she going in to load with compulsory tugs assistance or as Ron says salvage but looks like her prop is turning or is that all the stern tug prop wash ? Cheers Gareth
                              Hello Gareth, Fwd tug looks a bit big for yarmouth as a harbour tug. But who knows. Yes OAL run ships like that, but my first thoughts was the ships running down to Samsun for Holwerda.

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